From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,f66d11aeda114c52 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,f66d11aeda114c52 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Thomas Beale Subject: Re: Critique of Ariane 5 paper (finally!) Date: 1997/08/15 Message-ID: <33F39E3C.50FB@invest.amp.com.au>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 264739273 References: <33E503B3.3278@flash.net> <33E8FC54.41C67EA6@eiffel.com> <33E9B217.39DA@flash.net> <33EA5592.5855@flash.net> <33EB4935.167EB0E7@eiffel.com> <33EB754E.446B9B3D@eiffel.com> <33EBE46D.2149@flash.net> <33EF9487.41C67EA6@eiffel.com> <33F20BCE.AB3@link.com> <33F22AD8.41C67EA6@eiffel.com> <33F33261.127D@link.com> Organization: AMP Investments Australia Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.eiffel Date: 1997-08-15T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Samuel Mize wrote: > > Bertrand Meyer wrote: > > This is outrageous. ... > > Is any argument for CORBA, or OLE, or UML, or > > Unix, or Windows to be dismissed as as "deceptive", > > an "ad" and not a "technical item"? > > In the part of my message you deleted, I stated my opinion that > your paper's conclusion is based on a severely and plainly false > premise. It was on the basis of that that I dismiss it as being > an "ad" and not a "technical item." With this point of view you would consign centuries of vigorous intellectual debate in all domains of knowledge to the dustbin. I wonder what Plato would have thought, if you, rather than including your judgements of his theories (no matter how extreme your disagreement) in the debate at the time, tried to paint them as product advertisements? If you don't like Bertrand Meyer's opinions, fine. We respect your right to contribute to the debate also. But don't try and pervert it by calling the bits you don't like "non-debate". For one thing, it damages any hope you have as being heard as a credible contributor yourself. - thomas beale