From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 101deb,af27044bbd8d36a1 X-Google-Attributes: gid101deb,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,86616b1931cbdae5 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Ejon Subject: Re: Is Ada likely to survive ? Date: 1997/08/09 Message-ID: <33ECDD08.3724@ibm.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 263146526 References: <33D005F2.E5DCD710@kaiwan.com> <5qp3cf$aqc$1@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au> <01bc977a$adaf91a0$8cb45ec3@newart.artel.it> <5rrtlt$i99$1@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au> <5s6q6b$f3$1@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au> Organization: International Organization for Human Improvement Reply-To: ejones7@ibm.net Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.pl1 Date: 1997-08-09T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: robin wrote: > > dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) writes: > > >robin says > > >>You'll find those attributes in PL/I, which has traditionally > >>been used for building large systems. Probably the most > >>widely-known of these projects is the Multics system.>> > > >Surely you can do better than that for an examle. TO contest people's > >(erroneous) view that a language is dead, it is not helpful to point > >to a system that was itself pretty much a failure, and which is most > >certainly itself dead now. > > Ever been kicked by a dead horse? > > If PL/I is dead, then it's behaving in an uncharacteristic way. > Much like: COBOL is dead, long live COBOL. > > FYI, IBM has recently released PL/I on the Windows 95 and NT > platforms. Shortly before that, PL/I was released on AIX. > > And the compiler is being ported to the mainframe. So there's > plenty of action on the PL/I front. > > Some of the action is evident in PL/I job postings, and in > new work. > > But to the point. The original poster was concerned that there > might not be support for Ada in 10 years time. > > I pointed out that IBM was behind developent and support of its > PL/I compilers, with new offerings and enhancements in the > past few years, that the support is ongoing, & that the > language had been around for some 30 years. > > PL/I has many of the features that the original poster > considered important. > > And IBM is not the only vendor . . . there's UniPrise, which > has PL/I for Digital machines, and Liant for unix machines .... Just curious, but didn't Multics go on to be reincarnated as "Unix"?