From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,d24e07f660698f1 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,d24e07f660698f1 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,d24e07f660698f1 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,d24e07f660698f1 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Richie Bielak Subject: Re: Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? Date: 1997/07/11 Message-ID: <33C632F1.2D9E@XYZZYcalfp.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 256183133 X-Nntp-Posting-Host: host038.jerseycity.interactive.net References: <33C61545.167EB0E7@tower.com> X-Complaints-To: Email abuse@interactive.net if this posting is inappropriate X-Trace: news.interactive.net 868627394 17534 (None) [208.192.226.138] Organization: Multi-cellular Newsgroups: comp.software-eng,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.ada Date: 1997-07-11T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: ivory@tower.com wrote: > > My friend's son is looking at colleges, and was startled to see > that RIT appears to have a heavy focus on the language Eiffel for > the first 2-3 years. He's using this as a black mark against the > school. The thinking is that he'd rather be learning a 'real' > language that has real-life value on the job market. Hmm. When I went to college the "real-life" languages were: JCL, BAL and COBOL. > > He's asked me for my opinion, and I'd have to say that I somewhat > agree. I've never met an Eiffel programer, and don't see a lot of > ads for them in the classifieds. Note: I'm not debating whether or > not Eiffel is a good language; that's not the concern. The concern > is whether or not the job market will see this as having been time > well spent. > > So, what's the (reality based) counter argument? You don't become a programmer by learning a single language. You need to know many. Eiffel happens to be a good one to start with as it will teach you important principles which are independent of the language. Besides by the time he graduates the "real-life" language will most likely be different than what he chose to study. Someone decided to concentrate on C++ four years ago, today is scrambling to learn Java. Learn the profession of programming, not a particular language. The course of study should include many programming languages, as well as literature, art, science and engineering. ...richie "Eiffel Programmer" -- * richieb@XYZZYnetlabs.net - at home | Richie Bielak * * richieb@XYZZYcalfp.com - at work | * * Home page: http://www.netlabs.net/hp/richieb * * "Fight software piracy, use free software!" (me) * * (Remove XYZZY from my address before replying) *