From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00, INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,1d8ab55e71d08f3d X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,1efdd369be089610 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Wes Groleau Subject: Re: what DOES the GPL really say? Date: 1997/06/26 Message-ID: <33B2C30C.7EE@does.not.exist.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 252787906 Sender: usenet@most.fw.hac.com (News Administration) X-Nntp-Posting-Host: sparc02 References: <33B014E3.3343@no.such.com> <5oqp9s$7vj$1@news.nyu.edu> <33B13BF6.79C7@no.such.com> <33B2ABA6.2A44C487@link.com> Organization: See Warning Below! Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,gnu.misc.discuss Date: 1997-06-26T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: > I believe that he's saying that people on the net have reprimanded > him (carped at him) for saying the GPL doesn't allow him to > incorporate GPL'd source code. "Of course you can incorporate it," > they say, "you just have to follow the rules about distributing it." That's what they should have said. Instead it's more like, "Of course you can use it. You should actually read the GPL before deciding what it says." > However, his company refuses to distribute the sources for their > product. So, since he can't distribute it appropriately, he says > he can't incorporate it. Almost. It's not so much trying to "hide" the source; it's more preserving the right to hide it in the future :-) I suspect they'd even be willing to tell the customer (they get a copy of the source) "The files ..., ..., and ... are covered by the GPL. The file ... is used by permission of UCB under the terms in file .... All others are copyright by us as stated in file headers." But GPL 2.b does not allow that, at least not if "contain" means what I think it means. RMS, FSF, GNU, whover, can restrict their code any way they want. I don't fault them for promoting their goals. But as Samuel says: > However, company decisions are constraints on what we engineers > can do. ..... I can't incorporate > GPL'd code. At least, I can't do so and still be doing the job > they're paying me to do. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Wes Groleau, Hughes Defense Communications, Fort Wayne, IN USA Senior Software Engineer - AFATDS Tool-smith Wanna-be wwgrol AT pseserv3.fw.hac.com Don't send advertisements to this domain unless asked! All disk space on fw.hac.com hosts belongs to either Hughes Defense Communications or the United States government. Using email to store YOUR advertising on them is trespassing! ----------------------------------------------------------------------