From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public From: "H. Blakely Williford" Subject: Re: Off topic response to an off topic message--> was:Re: Software Engineering and Dreamers Date: 1997/06/06 Message-ID: <33980EA7.28BACAB@fuller.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 246550971 References: Organization: The Fuller Brush Company Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.ada Date: 1997-06-06T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Jon S Anthony wrote: > > In article <5n45ou$cio@squire.cen.brad.ac.uk> cgrussel@bradford.ac.uk (Vibrating Bum-Faced Goats) writes: > > > What I'm trying to say here is that it could be argued (by me amongst > > others) that the relationships between objects and phenomena exist > > anyway. Mathematics is the ongoing creation of a extraordinarily rich and > > diverse language which enables us to express those relationships. A > > mathematician is creating a tool for scientists and engineers alike. It > > may require a mathematician to make use of that tool at times but, at > > it's very core, tool creation is what I believe to be the essence of maths. So is mathematicis like an adjective? > Spoken like an engineer. I don't think many scientists would actually > say this sort of thing. > > Go read G.H.Hardy's _A Mathematician's Apology_. Considering that (in > my experience anyway), the (vast) majority of mathematicians hold > basically the views expressed there, you will immediately see what a > "hornet's nest" you have just kicked. > > > I don't see it as being different from any other language in that it > > You're still kicking... > is there such thing as mathematical poetry? That is poetry not made up as words, but of pure mathematical thought? Could 1 + 1 = 2 be a poem, or is it just a statement? Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. -- Pascal