From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: "S. Norby" Subject: Re: Software Engineering and Dreamers Date: 1997/06/04 Message-ID: <33956ECF.41C67EA6@cacd.rockwell.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 246077314 References: <5m57nu$7si@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> <5mcp5o$ei7$3@news.cc.ucf.edu> <5md1fl$9f4@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> Organization: Rockwell - CACD Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.ada Date: 1997-06-04T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Kaz Kylheku wrote: > > In article <5mcp5o$ei7$3@news.cc.ucf.edu>, > Fritz W Feuerbacher wrote: > >Kaz Kylheku (kaz@vision.crest.nt.com) wrote: > > > >: Software is not technology; the stuff that it runs on is technology. > > > >So the concept of Software Engineering Technology is not a technology? I > > The concept of software engineering is flawed to begin with. Engineering is > the application of physics to produce technology. > > If physics is not involved, you aren't producing technology, nor are you > doing engineering. > > Examples: writing software is not engineering, and the result is not > technology, because principles of physics are not required to understand the > internal semantics of software systems. Designing a pure logic circuit isn't > engineering either, except when you have to solve implementation problems > related to heat dissipation, capacitive or inductive coupling and other > artifacts related to the _technology_. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ from WWWebster Dictionary: Main Entry:(1) engineer Function: noun Etymology: alter. of earlier enginer, from Middle English, alteration of enginour, from Middle French engigneur, from Old French engignier to contrive, from engin Date: 14th century 1 : a member of a military group devoted to engineering work 2 obsolete : a crafty schemer : PLOTTER 3 a : a designer or builder of engines b : a person who is trained in or follows as a profession a branch of engineering c : a person who carries through an enterprise by skillful or artful contrivance 4 : a person who runs or supervises an engine or an apparatus Main Entry:(2) engineer Function: transitive verb Date: 1843 1 : to lay out, construct, or manage as an engineer 2 a : to contrive or plan out usually with more or less subtle skill and craft b : to guide the course of 3 : to modify or produce by genetic engineering Main Entry: engineering Function: noun Date: 1720 1 : the activities or function of an engineer 2 a : the application of science and mathematics by which the properties of matter and the sources of energy in nature are made useful to people b : the design and manufacture of complex products 3 : calculated manipulation or direction (as of behavior) -- compare GENETIC ENGINEERING Main Entry: technology Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural -gies Etymology: Greek technologia systematic treatment of an art, from technE art, skill + -o- + -logia -logy Date: 1859 1 a : the practical application of knowledge especially in a particular area : ENGINEERING 2 b : a capability given by the practical application of knowledge 2 : a manner of accomplishing a task especially using technical processes, methods, or knowledge 3 : the specialized aspects of a particular field of endeavor - technologist /-jist/ noun ~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- Suzette N. \\\ \\\ \\\ \\\ \\\ \\\ \\\ \\\ \\\ ( :) ( :) ( :) ( :) ( :) ( :) ( :) ( :) ( :) /// /// /// /// /// /// /// /// /// (Speaking only for myself)