From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: "W. Wesley Groleau (Wes)" Subject: Re: Software Engineering is not a hoax... (was Re: Any research putting c above ada?) Date: 1997/05/24 Message-ID: <3386640E.7588@pseserv6.fw.hac.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 243597050 Sender: usenet@most.fw.hac.com (News Administration) X-Nntp-Posting-Host: sparc02 References: <33859489.7FB8@spam.innocon.com> <3385B67B.1439@msim.co.uk.spamstop> <5m4idq$oc4@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> Organization: Hughes Defense Communications Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.ada Date: 1997-05-24T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Kaz Kylheku wrote: > There are those who feel that their software development development position > doesn't carry the enough prestige, so they prefer to be called software > engineers. ..... It's a facetious title. It's true that some "software engineers" are falsely so-called, either by themselves or others. And many "real" software engineers sometimes engage in "mere programming" Those facts don't deny either activity "prestige". (Nor is "prestige" worth anything in the grand scheme of things.) > Real engineers _build_ a product, they don't _write_ it. Now you're drifting a little wide. A lot of Civil Engineers, Mechanical Engineers, Electrical Engineers, etc. specify and design _things_ that are actually built by "skilled trades". Explain how that is qualitatively different from specifying and designing _behaviour_ that is performed by computers. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Wes Groleau, Hughes Defense Communications, Fort Wayne, IN USA Not A Real Engineer (Kaz said so) Tool-smith Wanna-be Send me your advertisements! I'll proofread and return them for only $50.00 (US) per hundred words (plus a small fee per correction). For full details, use a subject line of "Re: Proofreading Offer" on a message of less than ten lines. ----------------------------------------------------------------------