From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public From: WStreett@shell.monmouth.com.spamguard (Wilbur Streett) Subject: Re: Any research putting c above ada? Date: 1997/05/11 Message-ID: <337624cd.350380029@news.monmouth.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 240912408 References: <5ih6i9$oct$1@waldorf.csc.calpoly.edu> <5k60au$gig@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> <33674E4C.446B@cca.rockwell.com> <5k88b3$340@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> <3368A6FE.41C6@cca.rockwell.com> <5l23hb$7fe$1@news.cc.ucf.edu> Organization: Monmouth Internet Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.ada Date: 1997-05-11T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: fwf27775@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (Fritz W Feuerbacher) wrote: >This is because there is no need to teach people these things. If comp >sci departments wanted to teach people these types of subjects then they >wouldn't be a comp sci department. These types of things change from week >to week and there would be no way of keeping up with them. Comp. Sci >study involves mostly the theories that don't change over time. Thier >like concrete mathematic examples. The basic networking software that was orignally laid out in Xerox Networking Services, then implemented in EtherServies 2.0 and later worked it's way into 3+Open, later know as LAN Server and LAN Manager, licensed by Microsoft, and now the basis of all PC based networking, hasn't changed in 20 years.. SMB is still SMB.. TCP is still TCP and most CS grads can't do anything with any of it.. >If you want to pursue other avenues of computers such as networks and >GUI's and such go right ahead but no matter how much those areas change >and evolve the core comp. sci. material will still be there existing like >concrete pillars. Yeah right. And the CS grads will still have no fundamental understanding of real world systems.. >Thats because it takes about 5 minutes to memorize an os implmentation >dependent command and about 2 years to gain a good understanding of >computer science (with lots of hard work). And a lifetime to come to understand the real world issues in computer systems.. >Comp. sci. is not to concerned >with specific implementations although it uses them to illiustrate >examples. Which is why the typical examples of "Computer Science" created by CS grads are such pieces of garbage.. Tell you what, take NT 4.0's backup and restore commands and try to back up and restore a file that is larger than 1.4 MB. I'll bet that there were CS grads doing that work. Theory doesn't get the work done. Wilbur