From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: John Apa Subject: Re: Any research putting c above ada? Date: 1997/05/10 Message-ID: <3374A3F6.6C2@DIE_SPAMMER.dasd.honeywell.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 240646368 References: <5ih6i9$oct$1@waldorf.csc.calpoly.edu> <5k60au$gig@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> <5k88f8$387@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> <336E0B58.50D6@DIE_SPAMMER.dasd.honeywell.com> <03B907A80FDCD8D3.DE497CB31B087CAB.8E8ECC050055517C@library-proxy.airnews.net> <336F815F.41C6@cca.rockwell.com> <33711844.3C1F@DIE_SPAMMER.dasd.honeywell.com> Organization: Honeywell DASD Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.ada Date: 1997-05-10T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Kevin Cline wrote: > > > I'm not recommending that you read textbooks. I'm thinking of books like > "Design Patterns", by Gamma et. al, "Peopleware" by DeMarco and somebody, > or "Debugging the Development Process" by McGuire. > > One book a month is one hour per week. Probably less time than you spend > reading and posting to newsgroups. You must read much faster than anyone I know. I just worked my way through Jacobson's book. No way to understand it if you spend only 4 hours a month. I'd never get through it. I was lucky and got to do it at work, took my time and learned it. Not just key words and concepts from skimming. I could take a book, skim it, go to a meeting, and sound like an expert (seen people do this); but I wouldn't have accomplished anything other than making other think I was smarter than I was. My books all have notes written in the margins, and I try examples and exercises to solidify the knowledge in my head. It takes much more than an hour a week to really study the concepts. This has been a long week and reviewing some of my responses, I may have been a little hasty. I tend to get spun up quickly about grades and schools because it is such an arbitrary standard which means practically 0 in the real world. We all know people who are brilliant, some have high gpas and some low. My first job out of school had little to do with my gpa. I knew many people in the industry from working to pay for school. The best thing to get the doors open for interviews is to attend the local professional society's meetings and get to know people in industry. We all help friends get jobs, so the more friends we have the easier it is to get in the door. Of course that is not enough, knowledge and experience are the most important when it comes to signing the offer letter. -- *********************************** Standard Disclaimers Apply John Thomas Apa Replace "DIE_SPAMMER" with "delphi" to email. Honeywell Defense Avionics Systems Albuquerque, New Mexico. ***********************************