From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, PLING_QUERY,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,53f1f03353d5ae00 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: clines@delete_this.airmail.net (Kevin Cline) Subject: Re: STUDENTS GO AWAY!!!!!!!?????? Date: 1997/04/25 Message-ID: <336a230b.6437100@news.airmail.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 237208509 References: <335bdd1b.5485893@news> <5jju5g$18s8@newssvr01-int.news.prodigy.com> Organization: INTERNET AMERICA Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1997-04-25T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) wrote: > A very common phenomenon, that was around long before the >net and newsgroups, since the same thing happens when you ask e.g. >teaching assistants, is that students manage to turn in homework assignments >that work without ever having learned the foggiest idea about how programs >work. They do this by writing some gross approximation, and then asking >lots of questions. People give them helpful hints ("you should initialize >this variable, you should do the multiplicatoin first ... etc") and they >manage to get the program working by assembling this advice. Shortly after I left CMU in 1981 they started requiring that all engineering and science majors pass a practical final exam in programming. They were put in front of a terminal, given a specification, and allowed a few hours to produce a working program. I don't know if that practice continues today.