From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,cb6f9cb51306cfba,start X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Al Christians Subject: Lockheed? Date: 1997/04/17 Message-ID: <33564E1E.FEE@easystreet.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 235502174 Sender: Ada programming language References: Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU Organization: Trillium Resources Corporation Reply-To: achrist@easystreet.com Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1997-04-17T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: >> Lockheed? When did Lockheed get into the Windows/Ada development tool business? (Other than internal tool building that we all pretty much engage in.) I'd be interested in knowing what they're making generally available to the public out of their IR&D in software tools. << I think I got some little bit of info from a web page while looking for Adasage. I guess (based on just about zero knowledge) that Lockheed has acquired some kind of title to the Adasage package (which doesn't seem to be posted on the INEL site anymore) and is trying to make it into a commercial offering. My recollection of the web pages that I saw is that they are working this up into some kind of complete development package for Windows NT, compiler and all. It seems that they have had about 30 developers working on that thing since diskette rhymed with biscuit, and that they are now going to try to make a buck on it from a wider audience. Of course, truth is stranger than publicity, and I was sort of hoping that someone reading this group could let me/us in on the truth. I'm not trying to start any rumors, but I am surprised that I haven't seen any other comments on these developments here. In any event, the economics of mass production mean that the very big guys have a very big advantage in the language product market; I have nothing but admiration for anyone else who manages to stay in the game, and wonder why anyone else would want to get in. How could anyone expect to come close to matching the big guys on price, completeness of the package, quality of implementation, and ability to keep up with new developments (ie keeping the available interfaces, libraries, and tools up with rapidly changing fads and standards) on a tiny fraction of the volume? Any inside info on what's going on would be appreciated. Al