From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,d4aba2022b03306e X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 10d15b,d4aba2022b03306e X-Google-Attributes: gid10d15b,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,d4aba2022b03306e X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,d4aba2022b03306e X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: f907c,d4aba2022b03306e X-Google-Attributes: gidf907c,public X-Google-Thread: 10261c,d4aba2022b03306e X-Google-Attributes: gid10261c,public X-Google-Thread: 145623,d4aba2022b03306e X-Google-Attributes: gid145623,public X-Google-Thread: 1094ba,d4aba2022b03306e X-Google-Attributes: gid1094ba,public From: James Giles Subject: Re: M$ to STRIKE again... Date: 1997/04/07 Message-ID: <334969D5.4A2A@cris.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 231396147 References: <33489A15.453C@ix.netcom.com> <3348FC2E.A8B@csolve.net> <+ma59EAm5QSzEwBX@reeslay.demon.co.uk> To: Catherine Rees Lay Organization: Ricercar Software Newsgroups: comp.lang.fortran,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.cobol,comp.lang.pascal.misc,comp.lang.prolog,comp.lang.basc.visual.misc,de.comp.lang.c Date: 1997-04-07T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Catherine Rees Lay wrote: [...] > Don't be too hard on Delphi, btw - just because Borland are prepared to > acknowledge their bugs doesn't mean they have any more than other > companies/products. The existence of a well-defined bugs list is a plus, > not a minus. It used to be (in the good old days) that all computer vendors (software or hardware) were very up-front about errors. They would bend over backwards trying to educate users about the present buglist and the status of the respective fixes. The problem in those days was complacent users who couldn't be bothered to look through the known bugs until they got bitten. These days (especially after the Intel floating-point fiasco) vendors seem to be shy about even admitting to having bugs. I suspect it's really due to a perceived changed among company marketing strategists of the expertise of the user community. In the old days, users were only the elite professional type and would not have stood for stone-walling from the vendors. Now, most users are naive newcomers that might shy away from any company with admitted bugs - and who can be bullied into thinking any problems encountered are their own fault. (Note: I'm not saying that this is so. I just think that's the opinion among the vendors.) So, most companies believe it's now in their interest to conceal errors if possible. -- J. Giles Ricercar Software