From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5ea968aeb8c7f10d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,d71a6822cd2fec5 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public From: Randall Edick Subject: Re: Do I Really Need A Supervisor? Date: 1997/03/13 Message-ID: <33285CC6.1CFB@ss5010.ca.boeing.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 225415756 Sender: nntp@news.boeing.com (NNTP News Access) X-Nntp-Posting-Host: swsr22.ca.boeing.com References: <3327438E.942@earthlink.net> <5g7u24$1jeg@uni.library.ucla.edu> Organization: The Boeing Company Newsgroups: comp.software-eng,comp.lang.ada Date: 1997-03-13T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Jay Martin wrote: > > Auntie Alias writes: > > >Do I Really Need A Supervisor? > > >I work for a well known aerospace firm developing embeddded > >Ada software for a well known fighter aircraft. I have been > >developing embedded Ada software for going on ten years now, > >having contributed to missile, aircraft, tank and electronic > >warfare systems now fielded. Like many of you out there I have > >a wide range of experience developing Ada software for a wide > >variety of processors. Like most companies, my present client > >integrates me into a large and deeply nested management > >environment - I have two direct supervisors (one functional, > >one project) who each have their supervisors (functional and > >project) who each have their supervisors, who have their > >supervisors, etc,etc...My question is, Do I really need > >a supervisor? > > >It has been my observation over the years that one step above > >where I work, there is little or no software development done, > >i.e, my boss does mostly management "work" - going to meetings, > >interfacing with other supervisors, tracking my progress. My > >bosses rarely contribute anything of technical value to the > >project. Most of the time, they have little or no understanding > >of what it is that I am working on. Often times, they have little > >or no understanding even how to do my job - sometimes they are > >not even trained as software people. Too many times in my career > >I have had to explain the most basic ideas of Ada programming > >to my boss. (For example, I have twice had to explain to a boss > >that an Ada program needs a main procedure - that it was not just > >a collection of packages that somehow starts running.) > .... SAY IT BROTHER. Please see the other items I posted today. I'm fed up with this nonsense, and I'm telling my supervision. Where would we be without managment? An excellent example is Linux. NO MANAGEMENT. One of the largest, most complex, best technical, best selling efforts of all time. All done by techies over the internet. Speaking up is good for our companies. Try what I'm doing. I write software on my own time with plans to sell for myself (I got formal permission). It is an understatement to say that I outproduce my group in my spare time. I'm not the best technically either, I'm simple able to ditch this crap. -- =============================================================== Randall Edick tel (206)234-7882 Structures Research fax (206)234-1499 Boeing Company rre9518@es5031.ca.boeing.com ================================================================