From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public From: lgmayka@sprynet.com (Lawrence G. Mayka) Subject: Re: OO, C++, and something much better! Date: 1997/01/26 Message-ID: <32ebd0b1.17673570@news.sprynet.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 212255060 references: <5buodl$bci@boursy.news.erols.com> <32E2FEC7.2F7B@concentric.net> <6PE5zLpF3RB@herold.franken.de> <32E8DC1C.4871@rase.com> <6PUKuJvV3RB@herold.franken.de> <32EA52FA.1CF9@jmpstart.com> content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii organization: Sprynet News Service mime-version: 1.0 newsgroups: comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.object Date: 1997-01-26T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: James O'Connor wrote: >Joachim Durchholz wrote: >> Tansel wrote: >> > For starters, most Smalltalks and their tools are ridiculously >> > expensive. This is equivalent for the vendors to shooting themselves in >> > the foot, at the same time hitting us with the richocet. >> Seems to be a general problem. Obviously this is one of the worst market >> barriers for new languages: Market is small, so prices have to be high to >> make a living from them, so market remains small. >> On the other hand, this has saved us from countless language wars, so >> maybe this vicious circle is a godsend... > >I think this is coming around. PPD has Smalltalk Express. I know both >Dolphin (http://www.intuitive.co.uk) and SmalltalkMT >(http://www.objectconnect.com) have very low priced Smalltalk products >in the works. Dolphin intriques me because of the Smalltalk Applet >plug-in available. SmalltalkMT looks cool because it produces very >small, fast executables. And now Cincom is offering ObjectStudio (http://www.cincom.com/objectstudio) for less than $100. ObjectStudio's apparent advantage is that of a full-featured, mature development environment with full Win32 compliance at the lowest price of any commercial implementation. Lawrence G. Mayka lgmayka@sprynet.com