From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: fac41,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: 11cae8,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid11cae8,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: tbushell@fox.nstn.ns.ca (Tom Bushell) Subject: Re: What is wrong with OO ? Date: 1996/12/10 Message-ID: <32a98036.46416970@news.nstn.ca>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 203337631 references: <32A4659D.347A@shef.ac.uk> <32a5ceba.81462731@news.nstn.ca> <32A885CF.5530@csn.net> organization: Telekinetics newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.ada,comp.lnag.java,comp.object,comp.software-eng Date: 1996-12-10T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: On Fri, 06 Dec 1996 14:45:05 -0600, Roger Vossler wrote: >Then, when you understand what you are doing, commmit >to the CASE swamp of your choice. > >The problem is that people first buy a killer tool chest and spend >large numbers of hour understanding how to use the beast and even >more hours stuffing a data base only to discover thay they have >created a big mess. Agreed. But I think there _may_ be additional, perhaps more fundamental problems: 1. The design/implementation dichotomy that works well in other engineering disciplines does not map to software. 2. The design representations advocated by the gurus are not appropriate or sufficient for real systems - they don't map to the "code" in a useful way. Think we've got a new thread here - "What's wrong with formal design?" -Tom ---------------------------------------------------------- Tom Bushell * Custom Software Development Telekinetics * Process Improvement Consulting 2653 Highway 202 * Technical Writing RR#1, Elmsdale, NS B0N 1M0 (902)632-2772 Email: tbushell@fox.nstn.ns.ca ----------------------------------------------------------