From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: fac41,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public From: Ted Dennison Subject: Re: OO, C++, and something much better! Date: 1997/01/29 Message-ID: <32EF5DA9.15FB7483@escmail.orl.lmco.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 213192125 references: <32DF458F.4D5C@concentric.net> <32DF94DC.6FF8@watson.ibm.com> <32DFD972.37E4@concentric.net> <32E4FC5B.242C@watson.ibm.com> <32E6862D.608B@parcplace.com> <32E788D4.4B91@watson.ibm.com> <32E8EB48.2C0C@parcplace.com> <32ED2DD3.76B4@watson.ibm.com> <32ed60cf.41841439@news.dave-world.net> content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii organization: Lockheed Martin Information Systems mime-version: 1.0 newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.ada,comp.object,comp.software-eng x-mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.3_U1 sun4m) Date: 1997-01-29T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Tim Ottinger wrote: > > On Mon, 27 Jan 1997 17:36:03 -0500, "Norman H. Cohen" > wrote: > > >No, I've such comparisons between Ada and C/C++ (see, for example > >http://sw-eng.falls-church.va.us/AdaIC/docs/reports/cada/cada_art.html, > >which shows the same programmers developing Ada code and C code, and > >producing the average Ada line for 60% of the cost of an average C line, > >with only 1/6 as many defects in the delivered code), but not between > >Ada and Smalltalk. I would certainly be interested in such > >comparisons. If there are any Smalltalk versus C comparisons, it > > Just a note on per-line measurements across languages: Don't buy it. > I saw one where it "proved" that COBOL or ASSEMBLY were the better > quality languages to use and that it was unjustifiable to use Ada > and C programmers, who may cost $100s per line of code. Actually, the report addresses all these concerns and more. You really should read it before saying things like this. -- T.E.D. | Work - mailto:dennison@escmail.orl.lmco.com | | Home - mailto:dennison@iag.net | | URL - http://www.iag.net/~dennison |