From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: fac41,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public From: Snowball Info Subject: Re: OO, C++, and something much better! Date: 1997/01/28 Message-ID: <32EE6F08.2FD2@rase.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 212912628 cc: Stephen J Bevan content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii organization: RASE Inc. mime-version: 1.0 reply-to: snowball@rase.com newsgroups: comp.object,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk x-mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) Date: 1997-01-28T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Stephen J Bevan wrote: > > From: Tansel Ersavas > Newsgroups: comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.object > Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 10:58:20 -0500 > Organization: RASE Inc. > References: <5bphq4$5js@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> > <32E05FAF.47BA@concentric.net> <5buodl$bci@boursy.news.erols.com> > <32E2FEC7.2F7B@concentric.net> <6PE5zLpF3RB@herold.franken.de> > > I used Pascal, C and C++ for more than 10 years, > > Just out of interest: when did you first get hold a C++ compiler? I > didn't see the first one until 1986 and so can only just claim to have > programmed in it 10 years ago, but even then C++ 3.0 is a considerably > different language from C++ 1.0. Good point, I was referring to them collectively, which perhaps I shouldn't have had. I've met the C++ language in 1986, and used it more and more, and in 1990 I started using it exclusively till 1993 (AT&T in Unix, Borland in PC, one of the first users and beta testers of the entire Borland suite incl. OWL. Tried Glockenspiel and MS too, but I really have a dislike for MS suite incl MFC). I have introduced these technologies to companies I worked for where I had influential senior postions. I trained my teams, ond others in the company, did general design, and parts of implementation. You are quite right that there are significant differences bw AT&T 1.0 to 3.0 and between AT&T, Borland, MS, and others. Then I had to switch to Smalltalk because a new project, and I must admit, after a few months of struggle, I am now hooked to it, not that I think it is the best (I like Self better), but I find it more than adequate. Again, I had looked at Smalltalk before, each time either because of time pressure, or other reasons (among them my initial dislike of Smalltalk syntax) I did not see the reason the switch. Recently I had to develop propriatory encryption and compression libraries which had to be in C++, and compatible between Unix and Windows platforms, although I completed the system with a happy customer, I really found C++ unworkable. Tansel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- RASE Inc. Clark NJ USA Voice: (908) 396 7145 mailto:tansel@rase.com Fax: (908) 382 1383 http://www.rase.com/ ----Sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic--- -------------------------------A.C. Clarke-----------------------------