From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-Thread: fac41,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public From: Eric Clayberg Subject: Re: OO, C++, and something much better! Date: 1997/01/26 Message-ID: <32EB9AE2.4C42@parcplace.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 212367394 references: <32DFD972.37E4@concentric.net> <5bphq4$5js@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> <32E987FC.1FF2@rase.com> <32EB845C.68EB@interaccess.com> <01bc0b3e$3a805ca0$8c6700cf@default> content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii organization: ParcPlace-Digitalk, Inc. mime-version: 1.0 reply-to: clayberg@parcplace.com newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.ada,comp.object,comp.software-eng x-mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) Date: 1997-01-26T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Larry J. Elmore wrote: > I really liked Forth when I used it 10 years ago, and > from what I've seen of it, Smalltalk has a similar 'feel'. Too bad there's > no good implementation of it within my current budget... Actually, that has changed dramatically in the last few months. o Smalltalk Express is a fully functional 16-bit Windows Smalltalk IDE that is available for free from http://www.objectshare.com/seinfo.htm. o ObjectStudio 5.0 is available for $95 from http://www.cincom.com/objectstudio/justryit.htm. o Dolphin Smalltalk is in beta but is expected to cost <$200 (see http://www.intuitive.co.uk/dolphin/dolphin.htm for details). o Smalltalk MT is now available for $295 from http://www.objectconnect.com. There are also other low-cost Smalltalk products in the works. -Eric