From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: fac41,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public From: Mark Smith Subject: Case Tools for OO (was Re: What is wrong with OO ?) Date: 1997/01/03 Message-ID: <32CC40F6.1FBC@ssd.neca.nec.com.au>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 207360788 references: <5a9r1k$e74@news4.digex.net> <32C88BE0.7F2B@acm.org> <5afsto$g92@nntp.interaccess.com> content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii organization: NEC Australia mime-version: 1.0 reply-to: mark@ssd.neca.nec.com.au newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.ada,comp.object,comp.software-eng x-mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Date: 1997-01-03T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: > rmartin@oma.com (Robert C. Martin) wrote: > > >In article <32C88BE0.7F2B@acm.org>, i.joyner@acm.org wrote: > > >This is undoubtedly true. As engineers we need a CAE system that combines > >the CASE tool, editor, compiler, documentation tool, debugger, test plan > >generator, simulator, etc into a single seamless facility. We should be > >able to browse through our design diagrams, focusing into certain points, > >double clicking on an adornment or icon to bring up a stretch of "source code" > >which we could edit. Then build and debug in the same environment. I will probably get flamed for doing this, but we are beginning to use Rational ROSE/C++, and I _like_ it. If you buy Apex, ROSE, and SoDA, you get the case tool, editor, compiler, documentation,debugger all in one. The test plan generator could be wangled from SoDA & use cases. The browse through diagrams, double click to code works. And it's SOOOO quick for doing design scratchings. However, you need to put a fairly disciplined process around it. We've had problems with multiple solutions to the one problem, and how to combine them all into the 'repository' model. It's a process thing, not a tool thing necessarily. It also does change management, which is very impressive. > > >Such a system maintain traceability between requirements, use cases, design > >artifacts and modules. It would maintain lists of programmer and analysts Ah, ok. Traceability is a process thing with 3.0.6. I don't know about 4.0. > >notes that were germane to each other. It would facilitate communcations > >between engineers working on the project regardless of their location. It would > >facilitate configuration management and version control. It would facilitat > >project management. I don't think so email, and ( erk) MS-Project? > > >No such tool exists today. I think it will be a long time before such > >a tool does exist. But I can dream. > Give it a try... Anybody else got comments?