From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 11cae8,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid11cae8,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: fac41,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public From: Bill Gooch Subject: Re: What is wrong with OO ? Date: 1996/12/26 Message-ID: <32C2D08E.5@iconcomp.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 206074549 references: <32A4659D.347A@shef.ac.uk> <32AA207E.3199@deep.net> <32B3F45C.5140@deep.net> <59p4sp$2n2@access1.digex.net> <32C2E58D.3066@rase.com> x-rtcode: e20b9856325a8e56f5c2cee4 content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii organization: Icon Computing mime-version: 1.0 reply-to: bill@iconcomp.com newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.ada,comp.lnag.java,comp.object,comp.software-eng x-mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; I) Date: 1996-12-26T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Tansel Ersavas wrote: > ... > Here, I can't help but quote from Ed Yourdon: > > << Please only quote this as a whole >> > " 'From Emerging Software Technologies by Ed Yourdon:' > . Software methodologies are often supported and marketed by a > specific vendor, or guru > . The guru becomes dependent on the success of his/her methodology in > order to pay rent and maintain credibility/status/ego > . The fiery, young revolutionary often becomes conservative old fart, > defending his/her paradigm as more and more exceptions and problems > found > . Methodology collapses under its own weight when a critical mass of > people believes that it no longer serves their needs - but the change > is often delayed for years and decades because of inertia, > politics, etc. " > << End quote >> I wonder where Ed Yourdon fits into his own model... I think that a true visionary (Alan Kay, Nicholas Negroponte and Buckminster Fuller are a few who come to mind) never becomes a "conservative old fart," because s/he is never fully satisfied. New ideas and refinements of old ideas are always worth exploring. A couple of years ago, I heard Alan Kay talk about "inventing the future." He said that most people using Smalltalk have apparently "missed the point," because they don't bother replacing the class hier- archy with one of their own devising. -- William D. Gooch bill@iconcomp.com Icon Computing http://www.iconcomp.com Texas liaison for the International Programmers Guild For IPG info, see http://www.ipgnet.com/ipghome.htm