From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: fac41,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-Thread: 11cae8,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid11cae8,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public From: Todd Hoff Subject: Re: What is wrong with OO ? Date: 1996/12/15 Message-ID: <32B3B440.46CF@possibility.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 204271786 references: <32A5A86A.1AF1@shef.ac.uk> <32A82932.4A73@mci.com> <1996Dec7.151850.877@prim.demon.co.uk> <32AA978F.7D64@deep.net> <58v04c$r9l@bagan.srce.hr> content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii organization: Possibility Outpost mime-version: 1.0 reply-to: tmh@possibility.com newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.ada,comp.lnag.java,comp.object,comp.software-eng x-mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; I) Date: 1996-12-15T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Kazimir Majorinc wrote: > Tansel Ersavas (tansel@deep.net) wrote: > : 1. "The cancelled projects with money down the drain" is not a part of > : the OO problem, but a general IS one. I know two 100 million projects > : cancelled after 5 years of great hopes, money and sweat, and they > : weren't OO projects. Every year, hundreds of BILLIONS of dollars are > > Ubelievable. For that money I could do anything they want. Simulation of > whole world economy? No problem! Programming language more complicated than > C++? No problem! I do not understand? I can not imagine problem which can not > be solved with that money, except if it comes from mathematical world. More money makes the situation worse as it gives the illusion of commitment, of doing something. Building large software systems is fundamentally a social activity, technology isn't even a close second. With the right tribe of people i'd build a system using carrier pigeons. If it's not the right tribe all the money, tools, and consultants won't make a difference. ------------------------------------------------------------- tmh@possibility.com | The loyalty of small men can be http://www.possibility.com | bought cheaply, for greed has no | pride. - Michael Kube-McDowell