From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 11cae8,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid11cae8,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public From: Bill Gooch Subject: Re: What is wrong with OO ? Date: 1996/12/06 Message-ID: <32A83942.34FA@iconcomp.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 202698724 references: <32A4659D.347A@shef.ac.uk> <32A47B95.393F@iconcomp.com> <32A59FE9.2667@shef.ac.uk> <32A5F390.2A99@iconcomp.com> <32A7B9BC.52C71CEF@probe.net> x-rtcode: 718d574d3220353764a837ef content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii organization: Icon Computing mime-version: 1.0 reply-to: bill@iconcomp.com newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.ada,comp.lnag.java,comp.object,comp.software-eng x-mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; I) Date: 1996-12-06T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Jeff Miller wrote: > .... > Effective reuse is substantially a management issue, not a technical > one. OO helps, but organizational and process changes are more > important. I think you may have missed the emphasis I was putting on *immediate* reuse. This means reuse of software modules (methods, interfaces, classes, etc.) within a single application, and sometimes across similar applications that are being developed concurrently. IME, this flavor of reuse is primarily a technical (and technical project management) issue, and not an organizational one. "Process" at some level is always an issue, but then that's not saying very much. OTOH, I agree that large-scale (longer term, and/or broader scope, e.g. framework-level) reuse requires organizational compliance. But still, the technical issues can't take too much of a back seat, or nothing good will come of it. You may accomplish reuse with organizational and process changes in the absence of a strong technical understanding, but the stuff you'll be reusing won't be worth reusing. -- William D. Gooch bill@iconcomp.com Icon Computing http://www.iconcomp.com Texas liaison for the International Programmers Guild For IPG info, see http://www.ipgnet.com/ipghome.htm