From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,7f8fc37d854731d6 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,7f8fc37d854731d6 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,7f8fc37d854731d6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,7f8fc37d854731d6 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: 10461e,7f8fc37d854731d6 X-Google-Attributes: gid10461e,public From: Snowball Subject: Re: Interesting but sensitive topic to discuss (HELP: - OOP and CASE tools) Date: 1996/11/06 Message-ID: <3280BA64.30F8@rase.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 195634735 references: <32813322.41C6@kyebek3.kjist.ac.kr> <55pqr5$136a@grimsel.zurich.ibm.com> content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii organization: RASE Inc. mime-version: 1.0 reply-to: snowballinfo@rase.com newsgroups: comp.object,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.ai x-mailer: Mozilla 3.0B2 (Win95; I) Date: 1996-11-06T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Paul_Gover@uk.ibm.com wrote: > > In <32813322.41C6@kyebek3.kjist.ac.kr>, Dong Oh Kim writes: > > ... > >Let me have your opinions about followings: > > > > 1. Is everything OK with existing oo development methods? > > If not, what are needed? and what stage should be enforced in the > > future,i.e,analysis or design,etc...? > > ... > > OK, here's my 2 cents: most OO development methods concentrate too much > on objects and too little on classes. This obstructs investigation of > inheritance and polymorphism, making it hard to attain the benefits of OO. > IMHO, in many cases this is because the design method derives from some > entity modelling tool from before the days of OO, and entities are objects, > not classes. > > Paul Gover > IBM Warwick Development Group > Mumbling for myself, not IBM I agree with Paul here, this is the reason I have been developing Snowball Rapid Rapid Systems Engineering Tool, a dedicated Smalltalk tool which I call a RASE (Rapid Systems Engineering) tool. It looks like a CASE tool but it is radically different to one. The site is still under heavy construction but you can read about my ideas and approach in our web pages http://www.rase.com/ and http://www.rase.com/snowball/ Tansel Ersavas mailTo:tansel@deep.net