From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f79bb,953e1a6689d791f6 X-Google-Attributes: gidf79bb,public X-Google-Thread: fac41,953e1a6689d791f6 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,953e1a6689d791f6 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,953e1a6689d791f6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: fdb77,953e1a6689d791f6 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,953e1a6689d791f6 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 10a640,953e1a6689d791f6 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a640,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,953e1a6689d791f6 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public From: David Hanley Subject: Re: Eiffel and Java Date: 1996/10/28 Message-ID: <3274D523.5C06@netright.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 192809711 references: <550sm2$sn1@buggy.news.easynet.net> content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii organization: netright technologies mime-version: 1.0 reply-to: david@netright.com newsgroups: comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.sather,comp.object,comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.clos,fr.comp.objet x-mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (WinNT; I) Date: 1996-10-28T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Jean-Michel P. Decombe wrote: > > In article <550sm2$sn1@buggy.news.easynet.net>, Sacha@easynet.fr (Vincent > WEBER) wrote: > > > different). So... Why don't Eiffel and Java merge ?? Maybe it would be a grat > > I believe that Java is not the death of other languages. Java demonstrates > that it's possible to write a language which is really > platform-independent and "distributed". Nothing prevents Meyer from > writing a new version of Eiffel, totally portable and based on a Virtual > Machine, then port this VM on a large number of platforms, including a > JITC, etc. With the promise of a true platform-independent language, I'm > sure a good number of people would be willing to try it, including myself. > The only problem that remains would be a possible inclusion of this VM in > major browsers. But I believe most browsers will become very customizable > and won't be restricted to Java in the future, plus they will eventually > merge in the OS anyway... I suppose this would work, but I think it would make a lot more sense to simply compile eiffel to java byte codes. If he were to do this, he could, with very little work, have eiffel available on a large numer of platforms (os/2, windows, unix, mac ) immediately, and take advantage of a lot of work alredy done by other people. > > Java is just the beginning of a new era, but it's certainly not the > language who will necessarily win in the end. For now, it's the only one > to do what it does, thus it's the "current" winner... Sure... But it's smart to leverage on the gains it has made. dave