From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: ff6c8,b7857cb3cbabcf8d X-Google-Attributes: gidff6c8,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,b7857cb3cbabcf8d X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-Thread: 10db24,b7857cb3cbabcf8d X-Google-Attributes: gid10db24,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,b7857cb3cbabcf8d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,b7857cb3cbabcf8d X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public From: Sandy McPherson Subject: Re: Ada News Brief Date: 1996/10/18 Message-ID: <32676DA5.7686@wgs.estec.esa.nl>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 190264101 references: <533utt$43p@ns1.sw-eng.falls-church.va.us> <544b8m$duh@felix.seas.gwu.edu> content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii organization: European Space Agency mime-version: 1.0 newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.sw.components,comp.object,comp.software-eng,comp.edu x-mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4) Date: 1996-10-18T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Michael Feldman wrote: > > In article , Robert Dewar wrote: > > [snip] > > >Ada programs are typically highly portable, but it is important not to > >oversell this feature. I once heard the project director for the IBM > >air traffic control system say that Ada 95 must guarantee that their > >application move without changing a single line of code. The mere fact > >that someone could state this obviously unrealistic requirement worried > >me at the time, since it seems to me that anyone working with large > >Ada applications should have a more realistic view. > So, Ada '95 has to implement a portable operating system? That's not asking much is it? Seriously folks, the industry is in a bad way if seemingly responsible people can spout such nonsense. > Hmmm - now that FAA seems to be moving toward using other languages, in > addition to Ada, I wonder if that PM would set the same requirement for > the subsystems written in... oh, say... C++. > No, he would have *assumned* this is true for C++. It is amazing how many people assume C++ is as portable as ANSI C. C++ is perceived as being sexy and beautiful, and thus seemingly normal people can be reduced to the level of infatuated teenagers. Why are the FAA moving to other languages? In Europe Ada is ATC language number one. Did the FAA get burnt by an Ada development which went out of control. Could someone supply me with references please? > Or was this just another subtle exercise in holding Ada to a much higher > standard (unrealistically so, perhaps) than other languages? > Probably. -- Sandy McPherson MBCS CEng. tel: +31 71 565 4288 (w) ESTEC/WAS P.O. Box 299 NL-2200AG Noordwijk