From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: 109fba,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: 115aec,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: f43e6,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,gid109fba,gid115aec,gidf43e6,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsread.com!news-xfer.newsread.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.multikabel.nl!lightspeed.eweka.nl!newshub3.home.nl!home.nl!border2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!feeder.news-service.com!post.news-service.com!news1.surfino.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3254889.VeKxRnD1pd@linux1.krischik.com> From: Martin Krischik Subject: Re: Teaching new tricks to an old dog (C++ -->Ada) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c++,comp.realtime,comp.software-eng Reply-To: martin@krischik.com Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:50:51 +0100 References: <871xau9nlh.fsf@insalien.org> <87r7iu85lf.fsf@insalien.org> <87is4598pm.fsf@insalien.org> <1110059861.560004@athnrd02> <422b6d49.1141887367@news.xs4all.nl> <1110266099.441421.179290@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1110332933.587110.260410@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1110390097.532139.43430@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <422f3808$0$30165$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be> <1110409958.685759.249420@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <15SdnYvJ0_x3Vq3fRVn-3Q@megapath.net> <1110522060.091940.178510@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1110556346.841594.212520@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <4952804.Myubg7stsI@linux1.krischik.com> <1462853.JgxLXPrZ7W@linux1.krischik.com> Organization: None User-Agent: KNode/0.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@surfino.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 83.169.175.19 (83.169.175.19) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:00:17 +0100 X-Trace: a2c8642340f31f60c0ab606860 Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9302 comp.lang.c++:45401 comp.realtime:1414 comp.software-eng:4978 Date: 2005-03-13T10:50:51+01:00 List-Id: Robert A Duff wrote: > Martin Krischik writes: > >> And they havn't got 100% compliance - as the Ada compiler vendors have. >> And they can indedd claim that - Ada has the ACATS test - pass the test >> you are 100% compliant - fail the thest and (almost) no customer will >> consider your offer. > > Now wait. Let's be fair. Sure, the ACATS test suite is a good thing. > But no test suite can ensure 100% compliance with the language > standard. Ada compilers do have bugs that are not caught by the ACATS! Shure, you are right. However in the end the 100% stuff is all about marketing - as you said - no compiler is bug free. And in fact nowadays most of the "chosing a compiler" stuff is about marketing. Not the best wins but the one average one with the best marketing does. And here a CCATS and C++CATS would help a lot. Or could you imagine any Ada vendor not submitting to running the ACATS? Note to the C/C++ community: when we speak of ACATS we also speak of the Ada Conformity Assessment Authority (http://www.ada-auth.org/) which actualy runs the test. Shure anybody can run the test (i.E. with gcc you use "make -C gcc check-ada" - you need configured gcc sources and a gcc with Ada enabled) but that is of no marketing value. Martin -- mailto://krischik@users.sourceforge.net Ada programming at: http://ada.krischik.com