From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fc89c,97188312486d4578 X-Google-Attributes: gidfc89c,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,baaf5f793d03d420 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,6154de2e240de72a X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,97188312486d4578 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: bob@lintilla.demon.co.uk (Bob Cousins) Subject: Re: What's the best language to start with? [was: Re: Should I learn C or Pascal?] Date: 1996/09/27 Message-ID: <324b5c87.3413989@news.demon.co.uk>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 185583153 x-nntp-posting-host: lintilla.demon.co.uk references: <51knkn$j61@dub-news-svc-8.compuserve.com> <01bba638$e913f800$87ee6fce@timpent.a-sis.com> <324844D7.1507@trw.com> <52fat5$mpt@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> newsgroups: comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.unix.programmer,comp.lang.ada Date: 1996-09-27T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In comp.lang.c, Craig Franck wrote: >jsa@alexandria (Jon S Anthony) wrote: >>In article bs@research.att.com (Bjarne Stroustrup) writes: >> >>> Actually, the story that ++ comes from the PDP11 instruction >>> set is a myth. Dennis Ritchie has denied it quite often, but >>> that doesn't seem to impress people. ++ is in C and C++ because >>> Dennis (being a mathematician) considered it a fundamental >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>> (and useful) operation. It was in the PDP11 instruction set >> >>I don't see how that has anything to do with it. I'm a mathematician >>and I don't see it as a particularly interesting or useful operation >>to be singled out for special status (I'm not talking about the machine >>level here...) > >Well, I'm not a mathematician, but I have noticed that a large >number of them have a fascination with numbers theory. Maybe the >addition of integers seems "fundamental". I hope I do not need to >mention that c++; blows the doors off c = c + 1; nor shall I begin >to discuss the obvious inferiority of c := c + 1; :-) I don't think a mathematician would write c = c + 1 either. -- Bob Cousins, Software Engineer. Home page at http://www.demon.co.uk/sirius-cybernetics/ Please do NOT use my email address on mailing lists without my prior permission.