From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f7be1,be6b7e036aa9236c X-Google-Attributes: gidf7be1,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,be6b7e036aa9236c X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: fa0ae,be6b7e036aa9236c X-Google-Attributes: gidfa0ae,public X-Google-Thread: 11390f,be6b7e036aa9236c X-Google-Attributes: gid11390f,public X-Google-Thread: 1094ba,be6b7e036aa9236c X-Google-Attributes: gid1094ba,public X-Google-Thread: 101deb,be6b7e036aa9236c X-Google-Attributes: gid101deb,public X-Google-Thread: 1164ba,be6b7e036aa9236c X-Google-Attributes: gid1164ba,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,be6b7e036aa9236c X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: William Clodius Subject: Re: language wars (results 13 September) last posting Date: 1996/09/13 Message-ID: <323993D5.41C6@lanl.gov>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 180407965 distribution: inet references: <51bv60$8d@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii organization: Los Alamos National Lab mime-version: 1.0 newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.apl,comp.lang.basic,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.fortran,comp.lang.perl.misc,comp.lang.pl1,comp.lang.rexx,comp.lang.pascal.misc,comp.lang.smalltalk x-mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) Date: 1996-09-13T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: As always it is difficult to make sense of such an evaluation. Such biases are inevitable, but note the following: 1. The voters are selected only from that set of people with an interest in and access to internet language news groups in the summer. 2. The voters are selected only from those interested in a few of the more popular newsgroups, i.e., no comp.lang.c++, comp.lang.forth, comp.lang.java, comp.lang.cobol, comp.lang.functional, comp.lang.lisp, etc. Votes for such languages are probably more meaningful than votes for other languages. I suspect that a posting to comp.lang.c++, for example, would have greatly increased the number of C++ votes, similarly for comp.lang.java. 3. No postings to the moderated newsgroups, which tend to attract more knowledgeable posters. 4. The disallowal of first languages implies, at least in the US, reduced votes for Basic, Pascal, C, and Fortran which may bias results in Ada's favor. 5. There is no way to weight the voter's experience with a variety of languages. 6. There is no way to weight the voter's degree of preference. I suspect that ML stands for SML (Standard Meta-Language), but it is unclear whether IDL stands for the Interface Definition Language or the Interactive Data Language. -- William B. Clodius Phone: (505)-665-9370 Los Alamos National Laboratory Email: wclodius@lanl.gov Los Alamos, NM 87545