From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,63bbc3281a2f80ea X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Dave Wood Subject: Re: Ada vs. C Date: 1996/08/11 Message-ID: <320D2677.499F@thomsoft.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 173453156 sender: news@thomsoft.com (USENET News Admin @flash) x-nntp-posting-host: wood2 references: <3208F2BA.E34@freenet.scri.fsu.edu> <320B693F.4ACA@freenet.scri.fsu.edu> content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii organization: Thomson Software Products mime-version: 1.0 newsgroups: comp.lang.ada x-mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) Date: 1996-08-11T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: The Quelisher wrote: > > Robert Dewar wrote: > > That's bogus, comparable programs in Ada and C will generate > > executables of the same size, at least using a technology like GNAT. > > Ok, so let me explain where I am coming from then. Here is the source in > both languages that does the exact same very basic thing: > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > C : > main() > { > printf("Hello world! \n"); > } > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ada : > > WITH Ada.Text_IO; USE Ada.Text_IO; > PROCEDURE hello IS > BEGIN > Put_line("Hello world!"); > END hello; > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > When I compiled each of the above here are the file sizes that resulted: > C ----> 24,576 > Ada --> 253,952 > > I used gcc to compile the C code and gnatmake for the Ada code, both on > unix machines. Now that's what I meant by the difference in file sizes. > I understand though that there is a tradeoff between file size and > functionability of a program, but let's take PC's for example. Who wants > to run a 6 mb program written in Ada when a 2mb program written in C > does the same thing? I'm not trying to knock Ada or anything, rather > just making an observation. Again, just my $.02 > I get the following "hello world" figures on the PC: Visual C++ 4.2 ---------------> 76.0 KB ObjectAda for Windows v7.0 ----> 89.5 KB This compares the current VC++ release against the pre-release ObjectAda compiler, both with debug symbols turned off and no special optimizations. Not much of a difference, really, especially considering that MS has had uncounted gazillions of person-years to apply to MSVC compared to the humble Ada vendor (ahem). So, I'd have to agree with Robert: if you're comparing apples and apples, there's little fundamental reason that an Ada program must be bigger than a C program. I don't see where this is a language issue, as opposed to an implementation issue. By the way, you forgot to #include in your C snippet. :) -- Dave Wood -- Product Manager, ObjectAda for Windows -- http://www.thomsoft.com