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From: willer@carolian.com (Steve Willer)
Subject: Re: Hungarian notation
Date: 1996/06/07
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ok@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au (Richard A. O'Keefe) wrote:

>I am not the only person in this department who wishes that more of our
>students had attained at least "advanced apprentice" English skills.  A
>good creative writing course might work wonders, especially one of those
>ones where you are taught how to _rewrite_.

My own experience with some of my co-workers is that typing skills are
very important as well. If the programmer has to hunt-and-peck at 20
words a minute, they would be inclined to write minimal comments, log
messages, etc., using abbreviations that nobody except themselves can
understand. Plus, it promotes the naming of variables like "var",
"evnt", etc.

>This is, alas, painfully true.  There are too perishing many programmers.
>What we need is more software engineers:  people who can not only produce
>code that works but explain it so well that it keeps *on* working as the
>necessary adaptive changes are made.  Show me someone who things that
>computing is all about programming, and I'll show you someone whose test
>plans aren't nearly good enough.

And don't forget designs.