From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fc89c,97188312486d4578 X-Google-Attributes: gidfc89c,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,baaf5f793d03d420 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,6154de2e240de72a X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,97188312486d4578 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: "J. Christian Blanchette" Subject: Re: What's the best language to start with? [was: Re: Should I learn C or Pascal?] Date: 1996/07/28 Message-ID: <31FBC584.4188@ivic.qc.ca>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 170656112 references: <01bb73e3.1c6a0060$6bf467ce@dave.iceslimited.com> <1996Jul20.124025.122789@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> <01bb7b06$311fabc0$87ee6fce@timpent.airshields.com> content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii organization: SPC mime-version: 1.0 newsgroups: comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.unix.programmer,comp.lang.ada x-mailer: Mozilla 2.0b4a (Win95; I; 16bit) Date: 1996-07-28T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: > >Assembly -> C [non-GUI] -> C-GUI -> C++ This is really crazy! It's maybe interesting to understand how arguments are passed on the stack, but i strongly believe that simple high-level languages must be learned first, and more complex one after. Since there is a performance vs. simplicity tradeoff all along, the performance desire (usually for graphical applications) makes people learn lower level languages. I know many people, including myself, who made the Basic/C step for performances. C must me learned before C++, that's a point since C++ is a really more complex superset. I see no reason why learning GUI programming before OOP: in my sense they're not related at all. I've never did any GUI app, but the concept of multiple entry points is easy to understand, as well as that of object-orientedness (which can be found even in C programs, although C++/Java are more adequate). Understanding the machine architecture is one thing, using assembly languages is another. There's no real interest in knowing all the mnemonics of a peculiar assembly language for a C coder: knowing how stacks work or how system calls are performed is enough to make efficient C programs. Jas.