From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.140.233.138 with SMTP id e132mr26980493qhc.7.1436544426204; Fri, 10 Jul 2015 09:07:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.31.130 with SMTP id f2mr325893qgf.22.1436544426186; Fri, 10 Jul 2015 09:07:06 -0700 (PDT) Path: buffer1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!e109no74115qge.1!news-out.google.com!w15ni32381qge.0!nntp.google.com!e109no74113qge.1!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 09:07:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7a29d3e9-d1bd-4f4a-b1a6-14d3e1a83a4d@googlegroups.com> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=75.74.189.161; posting-account=yiWntAoAAAC1KqC_shmxJYv07B9l6LNU NNTP-Posting-Host: 75.74.189.161 References: <14592326-5070-4663-a864-5684298f3748@googlegroups.com> <004361da-53c4-4ea9-8cc6-38944aa6c7ad@googlegroups.com> <29dd5458-f9ce-4db8-9128-8ab35a9ce5f8@googlegroups.com> <64bc671c-72e5-4924-b703-3b907c69949c@googlegroups.com> <877fq9uj6g.fsf@theworld.com> <65061686-5c8f-433b-9b11-9e228298158e@googlegroups.com> <87k2u96jms.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> <06f8a6f9-d219-4d40-b9ac-8518e93839bd@googlegroups.com> <87y4io63jy.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> <7a29d3e9-d1bd-4f4a-b1a6-14d3e1a83a4d@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <302586a7-b960-473e-8524-61d87a1d7c11@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: If not Ada, what else... From: David Botton Injection-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 16:07:06 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: number.nntp.giganews.com comp.lang.ada:194050 Date: 2015-07-10T09:07:06-07:00 List-Id: To be fair, subtype predicates (and any work in the direction of tighter ty= pe contracts) are a clear step in the direction I was referring to as real = Ada worthy additions. I have an agenda of only three things in connection to Ada 1) Stopping Ada = from being closed off to general purpose use by those that want it to becom= e a completely niche language 2) To bolster and advocate use and community = support of non-GPL virused runtime versions of GNAT to offset (as best as p= ossible) the damage caused by license games from small minded thinking 3) E= ncourage people in AdaCore's niche market to hire AdaCore for their top not= ch support services. (There is no conflict here, good engineers often make = poor businessmen.) My reason for the agenda is simple, I enjoy using Ada and appreciate its be= nefits to facilitate correct and readable code in most project scenarios an= d wish I could be freely advocating its use and pushing it more, but hard t= o convince some one to get in to bed with GPL runtimes on the only compiler= around without "IP" and license scares being tossed at it to discourage us= e. David Botton