From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a6b:8d8e:: with SMTP id p136-v6mr5086127iod.32.1526612272027; Thu, 17 May 2018 19:57:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a9d:70d1:: with SMTP id w17-v6mr59937otj.5.1526612271917; Thu, 17 May 2018 19:57:51 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.gegeweb.eu!gegeweb.org!news.redatomik.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed9.news.xs4all.nl!85.12.16.68.MISMATCH!peer01.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!peer01.am4!peer.am4.highwinds-media.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!u74-v6no1213602itb.0!news-out.google.com!f20-v6ni1216itd.0!nntp.google.com!v8-v6no1231665itc.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 19:57:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87fu2psqpj.fsf@nightsong.com> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=2a02:c7d:3c35:b000:325a:3aff:fe0f:37a5; posting-account=L2-UcQkAAAAfd_BqbeNHs3XeM0jTXloS NNTP-Posting-Host: 2a02:c7d:3c35:b000:325a:3aff:fe0f:37a5 References: <6420bab2-0aef-4d36-b978-525e4de45e7e@googlegroups.com> <1559505943.548291689.457576.laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org> <87fu2psqpj.fsf@nightsong.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <300fd624-72a0-4171-90dc-49ad5df4fa21@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: meaningfully/compellingly "advertising" Ada on StackOverflow From: Lucretia Injection-Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 02:57:52 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Received-Bytes: 2379 X-Received-Body-CRC: 3743722029 Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:52417 Date: 2018-05-17T19:57:51-07:00 List-Id: On Friday, 18 May 2018 02:22:17 UTC+1, Paul Rubin wrote: > Luke A. Guest <> writes: > > The aim is to see how languages stack up. By using the standard > > containers with their anti-tampering and other checks, you would be > > hobbling Ada in this case. >=20 > Ummph, the anti-tampering and other checks are part of Ada's safety > which is its main compelling feature. If you turn them off then Ada no > longer brings any benefit compared with unsafe languages. You don't get the point I made. That "benchmark" is to see how fast differe= nt languages go using the same algorithm, without using any safety features= . If you hobble Ada by including them, you will make people think it's real= ly slow. It's not about the safety features. Do you get it now?