From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,6487f59679c615d8 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Received: by 10.68.230.98 with SMTP id sx2mr5705203pbc.1.1336634076526; Thu, 10 May 2012 00:14:36 -0700 (PDT) Path: pr3ni9065pbb.0!nntp.google.com!news1.google.com!goblin3!goblin1!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada Reference Manual 2012 in info format Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 09:13:56 +0200 Organization: cbb software GmbH Message-ID: <2nfobsn64ovj$.yo1ugseoo72.dlg@40tude.net> References: <82aa1ud0l3.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <20120509131736.63c924c8@vostro> <17qiwxc1yxhx7$.11tflala8jabh$.dlg@40tude.net> <4faa7790$0$9508$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> <1qod0a82z1gx4.6ncrd98m7cz3.dlg@40tude.net> Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de NNTP-Posting-Host: FbOMkhMtVLVmu7IwBnt1tw.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: 2012-05-10T09:13:56+02:00 List-Id: On Thu, 10 May 2012 02:57:32 +0200, Yannick Duch�ne (Hibou57) wrote: > Le Wed, 09 May 2012 16:09:10 +0200, Dmitry A. Kazakov > a �crit: > >> On Wed, 09 May 2012 15:56:32 +0200, Georg Bauhaus wrote: >> >>> On 09.05.12 15:00, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: >>>> On Wed, 09 May 2012 07:06:06 -0500, Nasser M. Abbasi wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think XML is not good for math. >>>> >>>> XML is not good for anything. I don't care about Web but in automation it >>>> becomes a growing problem that precious bandwidth and human resources >>>> are spent on chewing XML mess. >>> >>> Writing math papers and making data traveling automation networks >>> seem rather different use cases. >> >> Yes, though XML is usually advocated as a universal solution for >> everything. > > Not for everything: for when a standard structured serialization is really > better (and that's often the case). I don't know what "standard structured serialization" is. But XML is bad for serialization (if persistence meant). It is awful to describe structures (because it lacks means to handle dependencies, referential semantics, decomposition means, whatever abstraction power, types, semantic checks present in any language since FORTRAN IV etc. As a "language" it is really retarded.) > Then, XML does not came alone, it comes with XSLT, XPath, XQuery and > XProc, Which also reveals much about its usability. You don't need any tools to handle a *usable* thing. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de