From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,4b06f8f15f01a568 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public From: Ell Subject: Re: Moderators for life Date: 1998/09/06 Message-ID: <2mAI1.1865$vl.664404006@newsreader.digex.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 388459215 References: <6sh3qn$9p2$1@hirame.wwa.com> <6shhq7$lut$1@hirame.wwa.com> <6sjbso$1lk$2@news.indigo.ie> <6sjijg$36r$1@hirame.wwa.com> <6skhcm$1dr$2@news.indigo.ie> <6skqf3$9g0$1@hirame.wwa.com> <6smmhv$1kp$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6smsi3$n8i$1@hirame.wwa.com> <35EEBA15.30C3CC76@tisny.com> <6sn2lv$t6m$1@hirame.wwa.com> <35EEF0D1.939F1907@tisny.com> <6sp902$buj$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6sph1s$or0$1@hirame.wwa.com> <35F0484A.2108A9F@tisny.com> <35f69071.94576764@news.erols.com> <35F163F2.5F8D@wi.leidenuniv.nl> X-Complaints-To: abuse@digex.net X-Trace: newsreader.digex.net 905105918 205.197.245.193 (Sun, 06 Sep 1998 14:18:38 EDT) Organization: The Universe User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980226 (UNIX) (SunOS/4.1.4 (sun4m)) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 14:18:38 EDT Newsgroups: comp.lang.eiffel,comp.object,comp.software-eng,comp.lang.ada Date: 1998-09-06T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In comp.object Martijn Meijering wrote: : : Ell wrote: :> :> [And what makes this even more bogus, and outrageous is that these :> moderators have been elected for life. There is no provision at all :> for periodic elections.] : If I'm not mistaken, the moderation status of a newsgroup can be changed : after a properly conducted vote. So if we don't do our job properly, you : can kick us out that way. If by status you mean that moderators can be recalled, I saw nothing about that in the RFD. That still doesn't address the fact that it is much more democratic and it opens up the spirit of free debate to have regular say annual elections for such key positions. : Besides, if the majority or even a significant : minority of particpants and readers of the newsgroup wanted me to quit, : I would. I think that is how the other proposed moderators feel as well. I appreciate your intentions, but I think we need a formal structure here. Both for recall and annual elections. Elections should be annual because the ability for moderators to influence discussion is so great and we would suffer mightily if major problem weren't resolved in a timely manner. >From the "broacher" space guy (see 'Venus' in "Broad New Vistas" at my web site) to the "let's do it" space guy (even while being in separate camps), Regards, Elliott -- :=***=: Objective * Pre-code Modelling * Holistic :=***=: Hallmarks of the best SW Engineering "The domain object model is the foundation of OOD." Check out SW Modeller vs SW Craftite Central : www.access.digex.net/~ell Copyright 1998 Elliott. exclusive of others' writing. may be copied without permission only in the comp.* usenet and bitnet groups.