From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,5b3cb1d740c0b77f X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Peter Amey Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: ANN: New technical paper from Ada Europe 2004 now available Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 11:31:43 +0100 Message-ID: <2kkrsgF3b5guU1@uni-berlin.de> References: <1088612188.693737@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <20619edc.0407010704.470cc87@posting.google.com> <1088697575.6218@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de cqFgcfJhxPNCcTHZAM6M9Qul/fbgfiul0kjGYrzjdXa1MegsE= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en In-Reply-To: <1088697575.6218@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:2044 Date: 2004-07-02T11:31:43+01:00 List-Id: Hyman Rosen wrote: > Mike Silva wrote: > >> Isn't it really straining to complain about the style (not >> correctness, but style) of automatically generated code? > > > No. One of the claims of the paper is that the generated C > code is readable and maintainable in and of itself; indeed > that is one of the main points of the paper. > I don't recall making this claim. I said that the translation process is "transparent and traceable" and that the C provides a useful intermediate representation for object code verification purposes. I think these statement stand. We certainly wouldn't recommend modification of the C because that immediately throws away all the verification benefits that have been gain by analysing the intermediate SPARK model. It is probably true that the C /could/ be maintained if, for example, the translation or SPARK parts of the tool chain were suddenly to become unavailable. Peter