From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,PLING_QUERY, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,b6d862eabdeb1fc4 X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!feeder2.cambriumusenet.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!192.87.166.28.MISMATCH!tudelft.nl!txtfeed1.tudelft.nl!feed.xsnews.nl!border-1.ams.xsnews.nl!193.141.40.65.MISMATCH!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!npeer-ng0.de.kpn-eurorings.net!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool2.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Subject: Re: Ada noob here! Is Ada widely used? Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de Organization: cbb software GmbH References: <0e88de66-128c-48fd-9b9f-fdb4357f318a@z17g2000vbd.googlegroups.com> <22aKn.4575$Z6.3399@edtnps82> <8d5dbf6e-81fe-4419-aaad-118921a47b4a@q23g2000vba.googlegroups.com> <82ocg5r7w5.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <18iz0ye51c3rk$.1wc5rwelax6hr$.dlg@40tude.net> <82wrusagcz.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <82fx1317yh.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <1cic9uxywxe5q$.1txc2yridbly9.dlg@40tude.net> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 14:23:07 +0200 Message-ID: <2i3mv8sgbcwa.mgzppkof7iaj.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Date: 04 Jun 2010 14:23:07 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 02a7b880.newsspool3.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=WVA07eO:]Bk>jlK2>IgHGdMcF=Q^Z^V3h4Fo<]lROoRa8kF On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 12:55:00 +0200, Yannick Duch�ne (Hibou57) wrote: > Le Fri, 04 Jun 2010 11:40:19 +0200, Dmitry A. Kazakov > a �crit: >>> I mean the software in embedded computers on an airplane is more >>> reliable than the mechanical components in the airplane. >> >> I wonder how would you (or anyone else) substantiate this claim. The >> technical problem is that mechanical components faults have a stochastic >> nature. I.e. you have a certain probability of fault (due to physical >> processes involved in production and function of the given component). On >> the contrary, a software fault is not stochastic, neither in its production >> nor at run-time. A given bug is either here or not. There is no probability >> associated with it. Isn't it comparing apples and oranges? > This does not invalidate statistics on source of failures (OK to say this > can explains these statistics). If you mean "lies, damned lies, and statistics" then yes. (Did you know that 90% of people died in car accidents had eaten cucumbers shortly before the accident? (:-)) If you mean mathematical statistics, then its applicability depends on strict conditions. Prior these established the statistics (samples) of failures is just a collection of anecdotes... -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de