From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,7c1ca6be7961c074 X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!h18g2000yqj.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: MRE Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: OT?: AF 447 and avionics software Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 00:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <2fb5ee80-6a89-4df1-b4a7-e0922f179f68@h18g2000yqj.googlegroups.com> References: <78pifuF1k9uvuU1@mid.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.25.39.47 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1244186544 23273 127.0.0.1 (5 Jun 2009 07:22:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 07:22:24 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: h18g2000yqj.googlegroups.com; posting-host=193.25.39.47; posting-account=9oKlagoAAAArpDKc-z70x-nwdNs7Rw_P User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042316 Firefox/3.0.10 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:6287 Date: 2009-06-05T00:22:24-07:00 List-Id: On 4 Jun., 11:29, "Alex R. Mosteo" wrote: > I think Airbus is mainly Ada, right? Do you know some good place to read > about its software systems? No, not really. In my experience Airbus does not mandate the use of a programming language. Thus the language used depends on the supplier. You will find a lot of C in the boxes. In a number of critical systems Airbus prefer to use SCADE, which can generate C, Ada and afaik SPARK. > "In these fly-by-wire systems, one never really knows if one has checked out > all possible combinations of events to make sure that the computer properly > reacts," Sorry in advance for the language: This quotation is pretty fucking brilliant. The rocket scientist that came to this brilliant conclusion seems to be a real expert in the field of complexity theory. Thing is: even if you use analog electronics 50's style you can not be sure that you have checked all possible combinations of events. So what's the proposed conclusion? Let the pilots fly manually? Will those pencil pilots in the media ever learn that their "investigative journalism" is just a form of stirring bullshit? Sorry, I'll stop letting off steam right this instant. >What about these ADIRU units, are they delivered to Airbus by some provider >or are of their own built? Most of the systems in a modern passenger aircraft are being built by companies that specialize in certain fields. Airbus, Boeing, Embraer,... just specify what the need and then buy the things and put them together. Best regards, Marc