From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,6e3f191debc78584 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!t19g2000prd.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Ludovic Brenta Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Can Ada be hacked? Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 00:27:00 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <2e0e61a5-cdf6-4cb4-985c-a2fc0fc2888c@t19g2000prd.googlegroups.com> References: <215154cd-f0bf-4138-b294-776d4e058592@o30g2000pra.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 153.98.68.197 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1298968020 28473 127.0.0.1 (1 Mar 2011 08:27:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 08:27:00 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: t19g2000prd.googlegroups.com; posting-host=153.98.68.197; posting-account=pcLQNgkAAAD9TrXkhkIgiY6-MDtJjIlC User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.0.6) Gecko/2009012111 Red Hat/3.0.6-1.el5 Firefox/3.0.6,gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:17664 Date: 2011-03-01T00:27:00-08:00 List-Id: Ho=C3=A0ng =C4=90=C3=ACnh Long wrote on comp.lang.ada: > The first language I learnt was C. And then I learnt Java, C# 2.0, > Javascript. I have never seen any language which is as both beautiful > and safe as Ada. I hate programs with errors. Nowadays, people talk > too much about Ruby, Python as hacking tools. Hacking seems to be > overrated. And where is Ada? I really don't want to see Ada in only > embedded system. I want to see it in daily life. I agree. > There is a project called AuroraUX, which is written in Ada. But that > project is too large for me to involve. > > I think Ada community should spend more time on opensource software. > That's the best way to make Ada more popular. I agree but there are only 24 hours in a day. > Why don't you make a new browser in Ada? Why don't you? "Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country." -- J.F. Kennedy. > Google Chrome, IE, Firefox are written in C++. They > are hacked all the time. Isn't it wonderful if there is a browser > which can not be hacked? Just think about this, an operating system > like AuroraUX require too much effort. But a browser require much less > effort (at least I think so). You are both right and wrong. If you think an operating system such as AuroraUX must contain a browser then you are right. But that does not need to be so. Even a general-purpose operating system written in Ada could be made to run existing browsers instead of reinventing one. Also, writing a browser is not trivial, even in Ada. Mozilla Firefox was 2.5 million lines of code last time I looked, which was years ago, so probably much more than that now. And that's not counting any plugins. AuroraUX is small enough today that a single human can understand all of it. So is OS Lovelace (http://www.lovelace.fr), if you care. There are also many other Free Software projects of "small" size where you could contribute usefully. Here are a few examples of projects that would greatly benefit from your contributions: * OpenToken * Ada Cryptographic Framework (1) * Ada Cryptographic Objects (1) * Ada Crypto Library (1) * AdaSSH * Distributed Ada Web Server * OpenCAGE * Sly Kernel (1) One of these should probably become "the standard". -- Ludovic Brenta.