From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,9e7db243dfa070d7 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,CP1252 Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!l17g2000yqe.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: "Chad R. Meiners" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Do people who use Ada also use ocaml or F#? Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 20:55:16 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <2a03b97d-2da4-4f21-b66e-73e235bea6a7@l17g2000yqe.googlegroups.com> References: <9fc903a1-3fdc-4a85-bb17-2d30c4c54359@x42g2000yqx.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 173.48.246.55 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1288410916 387 127.0.0.1 (30 Oct 2010 03:55:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 03:55:16 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: l17g2000yqe.googlegroups.com; posting-host=173.48.246.55; posting-account=XRGbKgoAAACag8f1Ww4XGf81DDZtyfbX User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US) AppleWebKit/534.7 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/7.0.517.41 Safari/534.7,gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:15928 Date: 2010-10-29T20:55:16-07:00 List-Id: On Oct 29, 10:29=A0pm, Yannick Duch=EAne (Hibou57) wrote: > Le Sat, 30 Oct 2010 04:07:21 +0200, Chad =A0R. Meiners =A0 > a =E9crit:> Instantiation is the other half of = the deal with generics, > > That is the awesome quote of the day this one ;-p Well I can't take full credit. There have been a bunch of researchers that tried to tackle the problems of composing software components. It has been my observation that it is difficult to compose. > > > Type parameterization are a good feature of type systems. =A0Perhaps th= e > > main problem is the lack of formal contracts for generic parameters? > > This question indeed frequently raised (SPARK still not support generics,= =A0 > nowadays no more than in 2004). > > And if you wish to ask Dmitry to tell more, please do=85 I am interested = too. I am always curious to read what Dmitry writes. I have learned a lot by reading some of his post to CLA. I also agree that is sad that SPARK does not support generics. Maybe there is something difficult in such support. I haven't kept up on my formal methods research so I don't know what the hold up is. But the Praxis people are pretty smart, I bet generics might have a couple rock that get thrown in the cog of the formal machinery.