From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,60e2922351e0e780 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-11-20 14:55:36 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!small1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!intern1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:55:34 -0600 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:55:33 -0500 From: "Robert I. Eachus" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: OT: Nuclear Waste (Was Re-Marketing Ada) References: <3FB22125.1040807@noplace.com> <3FB3751D.5090809@noplace.com> <1069092089.51926@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <1069341262.907029@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <2ZudnTAS4uD62yCiRVn-tw@comcast.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.34.214.193 X-Trace: sv3-LOgtlWXaIukhWmunE0slKVtkAQCcnzRvMpTNbhGwsApEyrPqIu7l+e47wxbbFd+yaqjt9IirRBNOuuM!bJzjs5+BbJ8Xi4j7tIqi8nWIEPXbl86iMM3Qt7INRmTCk2m+HZDshogZoGPmfg== X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:2773 Date: 2003-11-20T17:55:33-05:00 List-Id: Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler wrote: > Well. What if you can't clean them up (fast enough)? > > Remember Australia's rabbit problem? Having such thing on a larger > scale *could* be very disastrous and not be revealed by "some minimal > amount of testing". The zebra mussel problems in the Great Lakes and in the Mississippi River are probably a better example. But what you have in Genetically Modified foods is a choice between products that have been developed by billions of years of blind evolution, including random mutations caused both by transcription errors and viruses, or products where a company took an existing food product, and the virus tools for modifying the genetic structure, and created a new version. This version was then subjected to testing. So compared to the GM foods, the "natural" foods can contain similar modifications. Only in the case of the GM foods, there is design intent involved, and some testing. In natural foods, the genetic splicing and random point mutations are just that, random. Now of course if you are a farmer, you may buy your seeds from a company that does testing similar to that done on GM seeds, so the seeds you start with are no worse--but they are no better. That is the reality. -- Robert I. Eachus 100% Ada, no bugs--the only way to create software.