From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,cfbb90c56a313e70 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 10261c,cfbb90c56a313e70 X-Google-Attributes: gid10261c,public From: "Larry Elmore" Subject: Re: From extended Pascals to Ada 95 guide Date: 2000/08/25 Message-ID: <2IBp5.1573$OE.204952@paloalto-snr1.gtei.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 662524208 Distribution: world References: <8o3s2a$9ph$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <8o4bfq$v0h$1@slb7.atl.mindspring.net> <39A655BE.18E89020@maths.unine.ch> <4Oxp5.428$Ze5.13712@nnrp3.sbc.net> <39A6B3FF.73538A0E@acm.org> X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Complaints-To: abuse@gte.net X-Trace: /bQNueuMBTSHWdhjF7U9RY1R6xMAvb1THFcsRmkV5W01IKxpzIsOH593gNZ74TNsPZ3BdGzzqwHk!YSDABjT6H4KKeWNRoPUQz5CU4YhHrDcs4uEUXNgHMwo/l4qYmZFUb3AjK7cJE2/2n741XtErRGNw!PWOcf10= X-MSMail-Priority: Normal NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 21:39:10 GMT Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.pascal.misc Date: 2000-08-25T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: "Marin D. Condic" wrote in message news:39A6B3FF.73538A0E@acm.org... > > > I would agree, but with a qualification. In some domains with some > development environments, you get lots of prepackaged, well integrated > services. The language itself (Ada) is going to be faster/better/cheaper > to develop in than (say) C++ or some other popular languages because of > ease of understanding, extensive checking to avoid bugs, easier > debugging, easier configuration management, etc. However, its hard to > compete with something like Microsoft Visual C++ for PC app development > simply because of the body of code leveraged through the MFC and the > really spiffy, well integrated IDE. While similar tools are available > with Ada to some extent, you don't get the whole thing in one nice kit, > so you'll lose time in pulling the tools together, integrating them, > figuring out how to use them, etc. For some domains you may not have > these tools at all. > > Granted, this is not a "language" issue, but more of a "development > environment" issue. Some other language may be faster to develop in > simply because of the availability of the whole environment - not > because of the language itself. I haven't used MS Visual C++ much (just worked my way through the tutorial apps), and I haven't used Delphi since ver.2, but I thought Delphi was a much better environment to work in than MFC, and I liked Object Pascal a lot better than I've ever liked C++. That said, I just wish Delphi used Ada 95 instead of Object Pascal. _That_ would've been the best of all possible worlds and I'd almost certainly still be using it today. Larry