From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,c32fe290813aec20 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!k39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Lucretia Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: New Ada portable GUI Library? Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 01:11:04 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <29b4fb7f-afb5-4428-9a73-2bac655b3a27@k39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> References: <6d63c543-0a35-4c39-a330-98c63a24f64d@i3g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1365533.nRhg4MZKNK@linux1.krischik.com> <4e5ffa74-e1d6-4e80-9dd9-824df475a60c@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <970df333-8c12-4f5d-b32b-ded6a84a0195@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <187iruircnfuu$.oc2g47zys18k.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 90.201.91.10 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1200215464 4742 127.0.0.1 (13 Jan 2008 09:11:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:11:04 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: k39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com; posting-host=90.201.91.10; posting-account=L2-UcQkAAAAfd_BqbeNHs3XeM0jTXloS User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.10) Gecko/20061201 Firefox/2.0.0.10 (Ubuntu-feisty),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:19374 Date: 2008-01-13T01:11:04-08:00 List-Id: On Jan 13, 8:13 am, "Dmitry A. Kazakov" wrote: > Gtk and Qt are themselves thick bindings. It makes no sense to use them as > a low-level rendering platform. An all-Ada GUI design should IMO look like: Yes, actually it does. Look at wxWidgets, they use Gtk as a base for Linux apps to provide a native look and feel. Not many people use direct X11 libraries for their DE. > Ada GUI library > ---------------------------------------- > Ada rendering platform abstraction layer > | > Ada | Ada native bindings, engine-specific > -------- | ----------------------------- > X11 | Win32 GUI API > > The major problem is a good abstraction layer with a working concept of > inter-tasking signal handler composition. This is a weakness of most known > Ada GUI libraries. No! At this level you don't need (or want) to implement tasking. That's the whole point of using a tiny C veneer as an abstraction for the stuff you might not be able to do with Ada easily (I'm talking about managing the C preprocessed code here). You implement the tasking at the higher Ada layer. Luke.