From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,5db2a4f776607ef6 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.68.235.4 with SMTP id ui4mr601272pbc.3.1332254381523; Tue, 20 Mar 2012 07:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Path: kz5ni12535pbc.0!nntp.google.com!news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Marc C Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada advocacy Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 07:39:38 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <29453293.5949.1332254378181.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbiz13> References: <19595886.4450.1332248078686.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbbfy7> NNTP-Posting-Host: 134.223.116.200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: posting.google.com 1332254378 23814 127.0.0.1 (20 Mar 2012 14:39:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 14:39:38 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <19595886.4450.1332248078686.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbbfy7> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=134.223.116.200; posting-account=mjE6MAoAAADjsB3NIuKgfHO4u-Elh3cb User-Agent: G2/1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: 2012-03-20T07:39:38-07:00 List-Id: On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 7:54:38 AM UTC-5, tonyg wrote: > I am currently fending off an attempt to have my project converted from A= DA > to some un named monstrosity of a language. Reasons listed are > programmers can not be found This one is a pet peeve of mine. Has the project/company actually tried *lo= oking* for Ada programmers? If they don't seek, of course they're not goin= g to find. I regularly run into programmers who worked with Ada, liked it,= but ended having to move onto other languages. Given the opportunity to go= back to it, not a few would, they *just don't know of any available openin= gs*! And if an organization does deign to advertise, don't expect an Ada develop= er to take a 25% pay cut and move their family across the country just for = the privilege. We're good engineers, dammit, recognizing talent and develo= ping with Ada will get you a lot. (Oh, and by what metric is Ada *2012* "archaic"? Python dates from 1989, C+= + from 1979, and the likely monstrosity, Java, dates from 1991. The *younge= st* of these is over 20 years old. Don't give me no "archaic" BS.) Marc A. Criley Ada sub-reddit moderator (http://www.reddit.com/r/ada)