From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.99.67.66 with SMTP id q63mr11151319pga.83.1502491402188; Fri, 11 Aug 2017 15:43:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.36.122.82 with SMTP id a79mr6981itc.13.1502491402150; Fri, 11 Aug 2017 15:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!border1.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!border2.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!peer01.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!peer01.am4!peer.am4.highwinds-media.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!u14no132425ita.0!news-out.google.com!1ni223itx.0!nntp.google.com!u14no132417ita.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 15:43:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=76.113.92.25; posting-account=lJ3JNwoAAAAQfH3VV9vttJLkThaxtTfC NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.113.92.25 References: <79e06550-67d7-45b3-88f8-b7b3980ecb20@googlegroups.com> <9d4bc8aa-cc44-4c30-8385-af0d29d49b36@googlegroups.com> <1395655516.524005222.638450.laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org> <4527d955-a6fe-4782-beea-e59c3bb69f21@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <2933582b-7859-437b-a7ff-9956b1136b3d@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Community Input for the Maintenance and Revision of the Ada Programming Language From: Shark8 Injection-Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 22:43:22 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Received-Body-CRC: 4057264833 X-Received-Bytes: 2815 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:47716 Date: 2017-08-11T15:43:21-07:00 List-Id: On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 7:10:28 PM UTC-6, Randy Brukardt wrote: > > The ARG sent out a call for APIs (really, a call for interfaces to possibly > standardize) in 2003 (I think). What did we receive then and in the > intervening years?? Absolutely nothing. Crickets. 2003 was a while ago -- 12 years -- it was before I'd been introduced to Ada. > > That offer has remained open in the years since, and it's still open now (it > was linked into the recent announcement to give it a refresh). Interesting. Though I'd like to contribute I have nothing *to* contribute. (Something like a whole generic GUI API exceeds my grasp at the moment.) -- But, in all likelihood, it would probably be better to define such [API] in terms of Ada as its own standard. > The ARG does > not have the manpower to do a lot of libraries in a form that can reasonably > be added to the Standard. (Think a level of detail that would allow writing > ACATS tests to prove proper operation.) If you really want these libraries, > then put YOUR time and money where your month is. Otherwise, I'm sorry, > they're not happening. I for one appreciate all the work the ARG does; but/and not everything Ada-related ought to be part of the standard, as you note.