From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 5b1e799cdb,3ef3e78eacf6f938 X-Google-Attributes: gid5b1e799cdb,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!r38g2000yqn.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Ludovic Brenta Newsgroups: comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.c++,comp.programming Subject: Re: Alternatives to C: ObjectPascal, Eiffel, Ada or Modula-3? Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:34:25 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <28cd8a21-b962-4076-a9c0-7b5d07056dd2@r38g2000yqn.googlegroups.com> References: <2009a75f-63e7-485e-9d9f-955e456578ed@v37g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <0bdf3c02-0565-40e2-95cc-c7f5eb546313@2g2000prl.googlegroups.com> <7xmy6mzy0q.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com> <4a714308$0$30229$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> <48679a94-4ce4-422e-8656-56bb682b08c0@d15g2000prc.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 153.98.68.197 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1248942865 13348 127.0.0.1 (30 Jul 2009 08:34:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:34:25 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: r38g2000yqn.googlegroups.com; posting-host=153.98.68.197; posting-account=pcLQNgkAAAD9TrXkhkIgiY6-MDtJjIlC User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.0.6) Gecko/2009012111 Red Hat/3.0.6-1.el5 Firefox/3.0.6,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.scheme:6197 comp.lang.ada:7440 comp.lang.functional:2548 comp.lang.c++:48619 comp.programming:12152 Date: 2009-07-30T01:34:25-07:00 List-Id: fft1976 wrote: > Georg Bauhaus wrote: >> A second reason why Ada has dropped at the Shootout is >> that the systems they use have older interim (from the Ada >> point of view) GCCs that are known to be broken. >> This makes some perfectly normal Ada programs fail there. >> As the code is available and did not fail when it was >> first ranked, and does not fail when used with an apt >> compiler like GCC 4.3.x, the Shootout is just showing its >> information potential ;-) > > How would this explain Ada's slow speed? I don't understand you. Remember that the Shootout does not compare languages; it compares compilers (i.e. particular implementations of some languages) combined with programs (i.e. particular implementations of some algorithms). So, upgrading the compiler is likely to improve the performance of Ada programs; similarly, spending time to hand-optimize the programs is also likely to improve their performance. -- Ludovic Brenta.