From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,2573df63ff37c586 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.68.136.33 with SMTP id px1mr2343932pbb.7.1336119874006; Fri, 04 May 2012 01:24:34 -0700 (PDT) Path: pr3ni2358pbb.0!nntp.google.com!news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Micronian Coder Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: News on the AdaIC website? (Was: Re: Adaforge?) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 01:22:40 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <27835190.411.1336119760869.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynjn4> References: <10872380.887.1335622497447.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbbfr18><20524276.2208.1335953540520.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbqq1> <8762cd9yc8.fsf_-_@adaheads.sparre-andersen.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.103.151.88 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: posting.google.com 1336119873 24210 127.0.0.1 (4 May 2012 08:24:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 08:24:33 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=71.103.151.88; posting-account=tXrPSAkAAAAFR3M1xqoK7TQdrNxOfPT0 User-Agent: G2/1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: 2012-05-04T01:22:40-07:00 List-Id: Hi, It is understandable that there is a desire for ARA membership to mean some= thing, but because it "appears" that AdaCore is the only company that is ac= tive, it easily leads to what I said earlier about AdaIC being another PR p= age for AdaCore (to be fair, yes there are some non-AdaCore news). I often visit the websites of other companies, including yours, but there i= s normally zero news of anything happening. I still think it is good to see= ARA and companies involved present on AdaIC because it shows that there is= still commercial support for Ada. However, without other companies putting= in more effort into sharing what they are doing on AdaIC, AdaIC should foc= us more on non-member activity. If not, it will seem less attractive as a p= lace to turn to for Ada matters because the accumulation of news and info i= s so slow. I know I hardly go to AdaIC anymore because of these reasons. I = normally visit places like Ada Reddit and comp.lang.ada because there is fa= r more activity. That's a shame. When AdaIC got it's new look, I really tho= ught that was an indication of an effort to make it "the" Ada page to visit= (note: of course, nothing on the webpage indicated that was the intention)= . If AdaIC is really open to submissions about non-member activity as you sta= ted then I'll be glad to submit info as I come across it, even if it is alr= eady duplicated else where (ie. Ada Reddit). That would help AdaIC seem mor= e "alive". -Micronian Coder=20 On Thursday, May 3, 2012 3:22:00 PM UTC-7, Randy Brukardt wrote: >=20 > That's part of the trouble, we've never been able to get clear agreement= =20 > within the ARA what should be allowed and what should not. There is a=20 > legitimate concern about publisizing too much for non-members, which redu= ces=20 > the value of ARA membership to those companies. When Ann and I were in=20 > charge, we tended to report all member news, but only significant news=20 > events for other companies and organizations (that is, no "minor updates"= or=20 > "third call for papers"). I think that's still pretty much the case. >=20 > One of the reasons I started hanging out here was to gather possible news= =20 > items, and I still forward anything interesting to the AdaIC webmaster li= st.=20 > But it is better still if the newsmakers themselves do this; just send an= y=20 > news items to webmaster@adaic.org and the right people will see them (and= =20 > decide if they ought to be posted). >=20 > Randy.