From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,beb0b7471c6440e3 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-11-20 17:50:05 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: mjsilva697@earthlink.net (Mike Silva) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: 'Cyclone', a safer C--reinventing the wheel Date: 20 Nov 2001 17:50:04 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Message-ID: <27085883.0111201750.234ce321@posting.google.com> References: <3BFA4095.8325D016@earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.179.254.141 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1006307405 22539 127.0.0.1 (21 Nov 2001 01:50:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 21 Nov 2001 01:50:05 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:16764 Date: 2001-11-21T01:50:05+00:00 List-Id: Why the extreme overreaction to this posting, which was mostly just direct quotes from a news article? What "idiocies" were posted? If the inferences the OP drew were incorrect then shouldn't the blame be placed on a poorly written news article? If the OP "doesn't know anything" isn't that also the fault of the news article? As I said, your extreme reaction makes no sense on the face of it -- clearly there's something more behind your comments. Mike Brian Rogoff wrote in message news:... > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Marc A. Criley wrote: > > So now scientists at Cornell have come up with a "a new computer > > language designed to avoid unforeseen programming errors". > > Nope, they've been working on it for a while now. In fact, I even posted a > pointer to the Cyclone reference manual a few months ago (check on Google > if you don't believe me) since I found out about it on comp.lang.functional > where one of the researchers was discussing it. > > I suppose you could argue that some wheels are being reinvented, but they > aren't the ones you think. Cyclone is more a marriage of ML/Haskell typing > to a C substrate than anything having to do with Ada. Why don't you try > learning something rather than just posting idiocies? I know, its a lot > easier in comp.lang.ada to get everyone to applaud your wit by supporting > their delusions, but the easy path is not always the most rewarding one. > > > The article is at > > http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99991578. > > I could post a pointer to Eric Raymund's descriprion of Ada, and that's > about as useful. Here, educate yourself > > http://www.cs.cornell.edu/Projects/cyclone/ > > > I'm sure this is not just "C with constraint checking", but still, Ada's > > "type-checking engine" has been getting exercised, optimized, and > > verified for almost 20 years now. > > As I suspected, you don't know anything, but you just had to comment. FYI, > the first papers on Hindley Milner typing are from the 60s (Hindley, but > its just math) and late 70s (Milner, for a computer application). And the > properties of the type system are described formally, unlike Ada. > > > You just shake your head sometimes... > > Indeed! > > -- Brian