From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,3e070dca458e63a6 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Received: by 10.66.80.200 with SMTP id t8mr2530434pax.1.1358778877265; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 06:34:37 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.50.5.174 with SMTP id t14mr2761316igt.11.1358778877223; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 06:34:37 -0800 (PST) Path: s9ni7905pbb.0!nntp.google.com!f6no5298356pbd.1!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 06:34:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50fd3543$0$6548$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=70.53.16.242; posting-account=cUi90woAAADTaOISowbbHM8GUD0-opJO NNTP-Posting-Host: 70.53.16.242 References: <90d941f8-4e9f-485d-b2f6-89627d69ac79@googlegroups.com> <50fd3543$0$6548$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <263569d4-2e54-4c2f-886e-e01c8a9d03ae@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: More Ganssle on Ada From: Patrick Injection-Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 14:34:37 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: 2013-01-21T06:34:36-08:00 List-Id: =20 > A win-win situation. I think it's more of a win-lose situation. This group has been a friendly and VERY helpful place for me, I don't like = being the dark cloud complaining about other people but hopefully a little = bit of criticism will move Adacore's management in a better direction and h= elp the language. This is the last time I will post negative comments in th= is thread. So yes, if someone said Ada was a drop in replacement for bash, they would = lose credibility and consulting would not work. However in the Erlang example I was trying to show how Ada could compete du= e to it's strengths. Furthermore I am angry about the comments regarding the ARM port. I am gues= stimating the move towards ARM occurred 10+ years ago but since Adacore's c= ustomers have been slow to move towards it, Adacore is just now working on = the ARM port. What kind of business logic is this? Everyone in business wan= ts to use their existing infrastructure to make as much move as possible, a= fter all why invest in new infrastructure if there is still tons of money t= o be made with what you have. Adacore writes compilers and runtimes, writing an ARM port is already a par= t of it's core business. There are billions of devices that use ARM, why wa= it for EXISTING customers to move towards ARM, why didn't management start = the ARM port 10 years ago so that they could get NEW customers. Why wait un= til competing languages have solidified their market-share?? Basically everything I don't like about the Ada world: 1)GPL or proprietary stuffed down my throat(outside GCC) 2)An embedded language that can't be used for embedded design(as in baremet= al) have to do with Adacore's management, not the language itself, which is nea= r perfect.