From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_DATE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Xref: utzoo comp.lang.ada:3532 alt.cobol:122 comp.software-eng:3275 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uunet!pdn!tscs!tct!chip From: chip@tct.uucp (Chip Salzenberg) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,alt.cobol,comp.software-eng Subject: Re: Programming vs. Software Engineering Message-ID: <260A528E.3FC6@tct.uucp> Date: 23 Mar 90 16:45:01 GMT References: <1990Mar21.232702.20713@comm.WANG.COM> <8462@hubcap.clemson.edu> Organization: ComDev/TCT, Sarasota, FL List-Id: According to billwolf%hazel.cs.clemson.edu@hubcap.clemson.edu: > After [STANFINS-R training] the programmers became more > receptive to new ideas and appreciated the new found power > of Ada and associated software engineering concepts. I trust that the difference between "appreciating the power of Ada and associated software engineering concepts" and "becoming trained software engineers, able to make practical application of software engineering concepts" is clear to everyone. (No, not you, Bill; I mean everyone _else_.) It is truly unfortunate that anecdotal evidence is the only kind of evidence available to all of us who would like to compare languages. With programmers as test subjects, controlled experiments are *so* expensive... -- Chip Salzenberg at ComDev/TCT , "The Usenet, in a very real sense, does not exist."